Tyler speaks about his experiences with music and touring. He reflects on playing festivals like Louder Than Life and Sonic Temple, highlighting their impact on connecting with dedicated fans. Tyler reminisces about his early influences, including his father's band and Christian metalcore, and shares how he started playing guitar. He discusses the transition from playing in church bands to joining actual bands and embarking on tours, emphasizing the DIY approach to booking shows and building a music career in Nashville's vibrant music scene. Tyler and Toomey reminisce about early connections, touring experiences, and evolving musical tastes, highlighting the perseverance required in the industry. Tyler speaks about integrating nu metal influences into Gideon and the importance of crafting songs suitable for large crowds and festivals. They discuss dissecting the elements that define nu metal, emphasizing tempo, flow, and feel over stereotypical elements. The conversation also touches on the commercial success of nu metal and its resurgence, with references to iconic bands like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. The discussion concludes with a ranking of top nu metal albums and admiration for Slipknot's musical evolution.